Teenage Twitter Fight Leads to Broken Jaw in Alamo

A Twitter squabble over someone's girlfriend led to about half dozen teenagers fighting in the streets of Alamo Saturday night, according to police.

An 18-year-old man was hospitalized after he had his jaw broken by a two-by-four in a fight involving about a half dozen teenagers outside an Alamo party on Saturday night, Contra Costa Sheriff's Department spokesman Jimmy Lee said.

The street fight occurred on the 200 block of Viking Place at about 6 p.m. Lee said there was a graduation party and someone not at the party said something about someone's girlfriend on Twitter.

This led to teenagers, affiliated with a different high school — who were not invited to the party — to show up and a fight broke out.

When officers arrived the fight had already been broken up and the suspects had fled. The man who had his jaw broken was invited to the party, Lee said.

No one has been arrested in connection to the fight and the case is still under investigation.

Multiple posts on Twitter indicated the fight was between teenagers affiliated with and  high school's.

A tweet Saturday night from someone connected to De La Salle, said, "Jaws broken in two places. Going in for surgery. Thank you so much for the support. Love you all."


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Sherry McCreedy August 09, 2012 at 04:10 PM
Here's what I'm hearing: 1. This is about human beings, and not about a particular group or institution; 2. People have suffered harm, both directly and indirectly; 3. We live here together, impact each other, care about each other, sense our responsibility for the conditions in which we find ourselves, and want to respond. 4. Some people trying to answer these questions: What law was broken? Who's to blame? and What should the punishment be? 5. Some people trying to answer these questions: What happened? Who is harmed and how? What are the obligations? and What will make it right? How are those questions in Number 4 working for us? I'm not finding it so helpful since it seems to be about harming people who harm people to show that harming people is wrong. Plus the control necessary to keep people "in line" is really costly, both in terms of $$ and also to our relationships. I confess to a preference for questions in Number 5, as a way for everyone impacted to have an opportunity to effectively address harm, and move forward. It's called Restorative Justice. It tends to reduce violence by moving toward conflict (seems ironic, but true). There are ways to do organize ourselves to do this, and it's happening more and more in our country and other parts of the world. I can share more if anyone is interested.
David Mills (Editor) August 09, 2012 at 04:27 PM
The comments using foul language and accusing specific people of crimes have been deleted. We have now put a "moderation hold" on all comments, meaning they will need to be approved by an editor before they are posted.
Tom August 09, 2012 at 04:44 PM
I will soon be coaching my Mustang Soccer team with players from: DLS SRV MV I have NO doubt they will all get along just fine and a good time will be had by all. I did not choose to send my son to DLS but that does not mean I hate the place. BTW these kids are all neighbors, grew up together, and will soon go off on their seperate ways in college. Let's all cool down the accusations and remember we are all luck to live in such a good place. There is much to be thankful for and in this particular case there are no winners. Maybe even talk to your kids about this so at least something positive can come out of it.
Had to be said. August 09, 2012 at 05:00 PM
The car and baseball bat incident was 2 years ago if you read the post. It was sent to the president, and to protect his school and football program, it was hid very well. I did not come onto this blog to try and just accuse DLS of being wrong about every possible thing, but I do believe this blog instantly started out blaming MV for this event. And to be honest, a DLS parent has stereotypes around this area, and right now all you guys are only proving them true. I think it would be best for all to not throw out accusations against the other schools, cuz frankly none of you were there and can't say Forsure that any of what you are saying is true. It was a scuffle between a group of local teenagers and it's unfortunate an injury such as this one occurred. But realize no one from MV came on right away blaming DLS, they simply came on to defend against the comments some of you DLS parents were making. Let the police figure it out, and everyone go live your own lifes.
Christine August 09, 2012 at 06:17 PM
SRVWINSALL August 09, 2012 at 06:19 PM
ml1999 August 09, 2012 at 06:48 PM
Tom - talk to your kids about it? If my kid were a participant, the car would be gone, the iPhone would be gone, the easy-spoiled-life would be gone, and there would be additional consequences. Had to be said - hard to prove. Why didn't you call the police? Easy way to make things right, and to prevent escalation. Unless you buy into the rap moto of "no snitchin".
Princessbitch August 09, 2012 at 08:01 PM
To Thetruth and dr. Nicholas.. I'm sorry.. Were you there? Honestly those who are defending someone who beat someone with a 2x4 is just as guilty. I don't care what the kids said or did but no one deserves to be beaten with a 2x4. I agree with John completely. They are LOSERS.
ml1999 August 09, 2012 at 08:45 PM
Princess - where you there? If so, I have a few basic questions. Was it eventually 5 vs 7; or 3 or 5 vs 12 or 15? Did any parents witness this? Did they try to stop it? If there was a 2x4 used, did anyone try to stop the wood-wielding person? Did some kids actually use lobster claws and clam shells as weapons? (Huh?) Did anyone video the incident? Do you think that the police and sheriffs are doing a thorough investigation? Are the parents helping the police, or covering for their children? Thanks.
Tom August 09, 2012 at 09:02 PM
ml11999 I am not talking about if my kids were involved (they were not btw). I am talking about the kids that in NO way were involved. To take a look at this and use it as an example as to why violence is NOT the answer. That bad decisions can have life altering consequences. I have no skin in this game, but if I knew ANYTHING that would help the police I would share it with them. Of course if a person was struck by a 2x4 this rises to a far more serious criminal matter than a fair fight. I condone NO violence here and am confident the police will get to the bottom of this. if the earlier incident posted then correcty deleted are correct this will also come out so this could get ugly for both sides. No winner here only destruction.
Danville Sam August 09, 2012 at 09:58 PM
Had to be Said-Why on earth are you bringing up an incident that happened 2 years ago. It is irrelevant to this issue. Are you bringing it up because it can't be verified and you think it proves your point about how awful DLS kids are. Really...you can't find something more current against DLS kids? Well, I can. Because DLS kids are not perfect. No one at DLS pretends that they are. Yes, there are kids at DLS that do drugs, fight, have sex. The one difference when a DLS kid gets in trouble is they are held accountable for their actions. Regardless of what you think it doesn't matter if they are on the Football Team or the Chess Club, everyone is held to the same standard. Not to say the public school kids aren't held accountable. They are if their parents are doing their job and raise responsible human beings. All kids fall and make mistakes, it's how you handle the mistake that makes the difference. Trying to justify your mistake and pointing fingers is not being accountable. How can the President of DLS hide an incident like that? Really? You expect us to believe that? They may be close to God , but they aren't God. Man up! Make a difference! Show true character.
Danville Sam August 09, 2012 at 09:59 PM
Do you really think that the parents that send their kids there are clueless and love to waste their hard earned money on a inferior education just for the sports? Tell that to all the kids that got into Stanford, Yale, Brown, USC, UCLA, Villanova Notre Dame... There is so much more that goes on there. More than you will ever know because you choose to think differently. That is fine,just don't condemn what you don't know.
A Concerned Mom August 09, 2012 at 11:49 PM
Hi Tom, I am a mom of a SRV athlete who hangs out with DLS and MV kids. I have an idea about how our community of young adults can make a difference in a positive way. I would love to share with you offline. I will leave my name and number with The Patch and ask that they pass it along to you (assuming they will do this for us).
Tom August 10, 2012 at 12:47 AM
Danville Sam, I agree with you to a point. But I am not so sure all are held to the same standard. I have been very involved in BSA/Mustang Soccer TVLL, served on school board at St Izzy and volenteered there for many years. I will not go through all the dirty laundry but I saw things first hand that made me ill and I did speak up. There are good and not so good parents at all of our local schools and if you look at MV and SRV graduate destinations you will also see many VERY good college futures.
mkrc August 10, 2012 at 04:47 PM
What can be learned from this dialogue? My son was started making poor choices when he was 14. I called his friends parents thinking they would want to know what was going on and invited them to come to my home with their sons to discuss the consequences of drinking and smoking pot. Apparently the parents thought I was smoking pot because none of them wanted to address the issues. The following year my son planned an unsupervised party at his father's home when he was out of town. I thought I had all my bases covered because I dropped him off at his friends house who was supposedly invited him out of town. It was an "Ocean's Eleven" type execution. I had no idea my son broke in his father's home and had a party until the following evening when a parent FINALLY called me to tell me what happened. I called some of the parents to tell them their kids were at an unsupervised party. One parent was concerned and the others that I spoke to either threatened to sue me because their kids might get kicked off of their sports teams or said it was normal behavior. Several of these posts are addressing the fact that a majority of us are in denial and unequipped to parent this generation. As a parent who had not quite made it to the other side, I feel for all parents of teens. One poor choice and mistake can mar their lives forever. Social media, text messaging, twitter etc. can turn into weapons. We all need "social media" safety training and conflict training. Prayers to all.
Sherry McCreedy August 11, 2012 at 12:46 AM
Looks like things are quieting down here in these comments. I've been thinking about it today and figure if we keep doing what we've always done, we'll keep getting what we always get. I'm concerned about drug/alcohol, sexual, and verbal abuse and physical violence here. We need to support each other more, along with not being afraid to hold each other accountable. And I wonder about whether the police, courts, schools, and sports teams (bless all their hearts) can do everything that needs to be done. What about the rest of us? Everyone who commented here took the time to have their say, and I think that shows something. I hear a desire to get at the truth and also to avoid further harm. Had to Be Said and others, it sounds like you see a larger context here. Concerned Student, Justanotherstudent, and See Both Sides, you sound like you do too, and want to address violence proactively. ml1999, it sounds like you would like to see more accountability, and have some ideas. A Concerned Mom, you have ideas, too. Hayward Jabloume, Dr. Stinkyfart (really?), and Spatulas's R Us, you sound like you've given up on meaningful dialogue, and might also have discovered that getting caught hurts, so you have your fun when no one can catch you. Most people don't want to get themselves or other people in trouble when it hurts, so we try to work it out ourselves, quietly and on the "side" so to speak. But I get chills when I think about how some people get left out, and stay hurt.
Sherry McCreedy August 11, 2012 at 12:48 AM
So, if you want to consider something we CAN do proactively, I think you might want to check out this info about what people are doing in schools (and elsewhere) to create opportunity to deal with conflict before it becomes violent, in a way that doesn't hurt people and where EVERYONE has a meaningful voice, AND are held accountable, AND there's a chance to make things right when we mess up! http://www.iirp.edu/pdf/IIRP-Improving-School-Climate.pdf and http://www.iirp.edu/pdf/Defining-Restorative.pdf We have local resources, too; I just like the presentation and info in these links. You might also consider coming to the 2nd Annual Peaceful Schools Conference in February 2013, in Walnut Creek. Keep an eye out for further info, or better yet, join us on the planning committee! You can contact me at sherrymccreedy@gmail.com
ml1999 August 15, 2012 at 12:27 AM
Thank you for your honest post. It is quite refreshing. So, what kind of consequences did your son earn with his "poor choices" when he was 14? Per his "Ocean's Eleven" elaborate Lie, what were the conseqences then from both yourself, and his Father? (Since it sounds like he lives in 2 households.) Did each parent deliver consequences, or did he play one against another? FYI, "Twitter" is your friend. So is facebook, and google. And when your kids vocabulary and slang stumps you, we've found that urbandictionary.com will help you to interpret what they are saying. ("Having a 'kick back'" [small party], "Kush" [pot], etc.
Tom August 15, 2012 at 11:31 PM
Sherry, I looked at the pdf and it appears to be a way to have a conversation with all involved to change negative behavior. I commend the effort and those involved. It is at least an effort although I think some may be beyond hope by the time they are in HS.
Danville Sam August 16, 2012 at 03:31 PM
Tom- I have worked at a local public school, and had kids attend St Izzy. I was also very involved at St Izzy. I know all about SI dirty laundry, but believe me it isn't necessarily any different at the other schools. That is exactly my point. No institution is perfect. I wasn't saying that DLS is better academically than the public schools. I just get tired of hearing from some parents of the local public schools say how much better the public schools are academically, athletically, socially.... than DLS or CHS, and why would anyone spend that kind of money to send their kids there. The parents at DLS/CHS know how great the SRV schools are. They just choose to send their kids there for reasons other than that and still get a great well rounded education. It is not about athletics. If you think about it logically, you realize that the percentage of kids that play sports to the rest of the student body is quite low. Those of us that send our kids to DLS/CHS find it amusing when we here people throw out accusations like, kids only go there for sports, there are very few Catholic kids there or the education is inferior...... Say what you want but we know the truth. The sad truth is that for the DLS haters it is all about sports. Believe me, once DLS is out of EBAL you won't here as much negative chatter directed towards DLS or CHS. For them it is all about the sports.
Sherry McCreedy August 17, 2012 at 01:15 AM
Yes, and there is no one size fits all for everyone. My experience with this has evolved over the past 8 years or so, especially with my family ("kids" are now 31, 27 and 18) and also as a middle school teacher. I've found that working with these questions ("what happened? who was harmed and how? what are the obligations? and what will make it right?") did/does seem to open up dialogue and lead to some changes, not just with the kids - I've had to change some too ;-) It's something that can be learned, and I'm still working on it. In my experience with people in high school and older, it seems they are working things out on their own more, with whatever tools they've already learned. If having a meaningful say in dialogue has not a part of their experience, it takes some time to rebuild trust. Appreciation to you for your engagement and care in our community!
mkrc August 20, 2012 at 04:34 AM
@ml1999, my son did have consequences. He had to earn my trust back. After his initial one month of grounding, he had to be where he said he was going to be. I followed through with having eye contact with his friends parents to verify that said events were actually true. Sadly my ex lured him to live with him, (he obviously didn't back me up even though his home was damaged...),. He offered him a car, no curfew, a refrigerator full of beer, and coached him on not drinking and driving. This was pure torture and horror for me. It was not the life I envisioned for my son. I grew up without limits and had to learn the hard way. My ex grew up being the good son. My ex was my ex for a reason. He didn't want to parent. I was the bad guy. My son would tell you to this day that living with his dad made him grow up faster and had he lived with me he would have been over protected. I would like to think he wouldn't have had to have so many hard knocks. We'll never know... I get what you mean when you say twitter and FB are our friends. However, what I meant is that kids need to learn that when you put something online for everyone to see, it can never be reversed. It is permanent. How do we convey that? I never imagined my kids going through some of the experiences they had EVER... I didn't visit the what ifs..... Would it have helped???? I don't know. I'd like to think it would have. Thanks:)
OnlyFacts August 25, 2012 at 02:06 AM
All I would like to say is majority of this information is false. I have talk everyone involved in the fight. There was a 2x4 brought to the fight. Was it used though? No it was only brought for meer intimidation. The boys jaw had been broken By the end of the fight after one solid punch.
Sprtndad September 05, 2012 at 01:51 AM
Patrick, are you following this story with the police and if so, will you provide a report? If not, why not? Thanks.
ml1999 September 06, 2012 at 07:35 PM
mkrc, thanks. I have a close friend in the same situation, and then the Mom takes the Dad's situation as an end point. i.e., "I can't do anything, my child lives with his Father." Ugh. (I disagree - when a kid is coming to you for $$$, rides, college money ... there is LOTS of leverage!) I disagree with you that once something is on the Internet, it is there forever. First, I think I'd rather know that my son was drinking to excess, going out of town, than not know. And I would do what my parents did - you have the knowledge, you DON'T have to tell them where you got it! Play dumb, but use the valuable information they post online! Second, accounts can be closed. Yes, there is "cache" information saved, but even that dissappears after a few months. Its on a case by case basis. Thirdly, have we really lost our parenting common sense and powers? Does a 14- or 18-year-old really need an iPhone or a new car? The most common punishments I heard that my grandparents used - going to bed without food, and having your mouth washed out with soap - seem so much more effective than paying a shrink $100 an hour, and putting your kids on drugs, because the parents failed to set limits, set rules, have consequences, establish chores, and dole out consequences. And since when is money handed out on a weekly or daily basis a requirement in life? Get a job!! This simply sets up the "money grows on trees" philosophy. I know its not simple, but I think starting early is a key.
Oh Hello September 07, 2012 at 06:05 AM
I would like to see that as well
Sprtndad October 01, 2012 at 06:18 PM
I emailed the CC Sheriff. Here is his reply: "The case has been filed with the DA's Office for review. We are waiting to hear from them on the next step."
Sprtndad October 10, 2012 at 02:22 AM
Monte Vista kid was arrested. I think that says it all.
lax5 October 10, 2012 at 05:42 PM
Arrested!? Are you serious?! SAYS WHO?! Where is your proof? He is completely fine, with no charges pressed against him, enjoying college. I am a good friend of his and can guarantee you he has not been detained. But how do you know that, where's my proof? I can't prove that, no one can prove anything on here and no one has factual evidence of what's happened, so give it up. You're all just stirring rumors, attempting to prove your school is better and more innocent than big bad Monte Vista. I'm surprised your comment didn't tell everyone here that he's now on death row!! Because that would mean the Spartans have one right? And you guys can't lose!! NEVER! You have to win, have to be right, and have to be above everyone else! Give it up, and keep your adult gossiping and rumors to yourselves.
Danvilledad October 16, 2012 at 05:17 PM
Sprtndad, You are a complete moron. No one has been arrested. You continue to come on here to try to stir up crap. Get a life. A high school fistfight. It happens all the time.It is only because it was a DLS kid getting the crap kicked out of himself that this has lingered as long as it has. And you keep perpetuating false rumors about 20 or 25 against 2 or 3. Again a flat out lie. of the approximately 20 boys at the site the overwhelming majority were SRV boys just watching a 1 on 1 fight become a 3 on 3 or 4 on 4 MV vs DLS only because a DLS kid jumped one of the original participants from behind. That is all in the report if you care to read it and move on with your pitiful life.


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